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The supposedly serious DarK Knight Trilogy by devilkais The supposedly serious DarK Knight Trilogy by devilkais
Everybody has talked about the Nolan Trilogy , so I guess it's my turn ... and yes I am indeed searching for an excuse to accessorily give this picture a text. Anyhow, I love all of them ... Well okay , only 2 of them... 1 and a half ? Let's go case by case .


BATMAN BEGINS (2005)

The reboot that everyone was waiting since Batman & Robin ( Also known as the movie that makes me laugh if only for the way Arnie says "the cure". Really stupid , but hilarious stuff would come out of it if it were a 20 minutes Warner Cartoon ... though you tell me who should play who . ). I have to admit, for a movie that wants to set its own take on the character , it does it well. We see Bruce as a kid. The murder of Bruce's parent We see why Bruce became Batman and how he trains etc....yaaawwn.... Okay screw it, the whole first act of Batman Begins is boring. The training in the mountains and becoming a member of the League Of Shadows is so tedious that I struggled to care.
I am asking for a Batman, not half an hour of Christian Bale training to be a ninja !
But he appears later as Batman ... and somehow has a rather unpractical voice for a Batman . I mean, isn't Batman supposed to be stealthy ? Seriously, Denethor had a more convincing diction !( Though the voice is not a complete failure , I 'd just give it to another hero and I know the right guy for that.). The rest is a rather standard Batman story , so been there , done that !
So I am not all that thrilled by this one. You know the story that you already heard a bajillion times and are not all that excited to hear about again (Arkham Asylum did it much better and in a much more gripping way !). The camera is shaky as hell and I never felt it gave the villains that much of a chance.
As for the good parts. Scarecrow was awesome ... BUT SO UNDERUSED DAMMIT (come on , not even a fight at the climax ? What a rip-off !). James Gordon was perfect (great job Gary Oldman ! You're one of the greats!) Liam Neeson is monotonous but still okay (Boy did I crave a hammier Ra's Al Ghul !) . Bale's Batman voice ONLY WORKS WHEN HE SPEAKS AT A LOW TONE, though as Bruce Wayne he did fine. And as for the dialogue ... it is pretentious and overblown but that is why I adore the damn speech XD , and hey, cheesiness does not mean you're wrong or can't get the point across . www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIErwK…


THE DARK KNIGHT (2008)

And this is the one that is praised left and right ! A cinematic orgasm ! A movie so great that it brought prosperity and love on this planet for a millenia ! That 's how fans seem to describe it anyway ...
Okay fine , I' ll say it: It is the best of the 3. Easily the one I had the most fun with and that, despite its occasional preachiness , truly feels like a Batman movie !
The story ? Well a Looney Tunes character who forgot (or doesn't care ) about the way he got his scars decides to troll Gotham city , both honest citizens and mobsters. He will get his way through gasoline, dynamite, explosive , crossdressing , acid whisky and the exact joke he pulled in No Man's Land (No guy, this is not a new Joker ... a similar model existed way back !). Why is he doing this ? Because he wants to prove he's right ... AND because it is fucking funny !
MEANWHILE , Harvey Dent (also known as the reason your humble host watches this movie... Seriously , Two-Face does not get enough love here !) tackles the criminals as honestly as he can with Rachel Dawes and competes with Bruce Wayne for her affections . Though since anyone who's heard of Harv knows that he's about as lucky as this www.renders-graphiques.fr/imag… , you all know how it turns out.

TRUE, the ending is contrived and seems to be here to justify a sequel but I forgive that due to how entertained I was. I mean come on , the only way this could be any better is if the Joker was sporting a T-shirt with a Trollface on it and making jokes about Batman's voice. (Though I think he pretty much laughed at it when Batboob started throwing him against the glass. The "WHERE ARE THEY ?", that is comedy gold !)
So the question isn't "Why So Serious ?" but "Was it really THAT serious?".



THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012)


Finally , THE Closure ! Much better than the first one but .... not THAT disappointing to me. Seriously ? What did you expect from a guy that doesn't seem to accept he's making films about a billionaire detective in a batsuit ?!

So we have Bruce depressed for 8 years (And no beer gut? LIES ! That is pure fiction!),abandoning Gotham to whine about his misery and pain , but in a grandiloquent way so that we find complex therefore compelling. But he stays that way so much that you wish for him to be replaced by one of these Batmen 1) www.crackingace.com/wp-content… 2) www.rubberslug.com/img_show.as… 3) 25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3n… so that something ACTUALLY Happens ! (Select your number).
He also leaves his lifelong father figure Alfred over a woman he never even dated once... Huh ? Dude , this is Marion Cotillard ! She's gonna tell you she's Edith Piaf so many times your ears will bleed ! Run YOU FOOL !

And then BANE arrives ... giving me an actual reason to keep watching . True, I prefer Henry Silva's Bane voice and he does sound like Sean Connery here, but at least he's the only one having fun ! And I like my villains enthusiastic when then wreck stuff , yes sir ! (Am I the only one who thinks that him beating up the Bat would have been much better if there was a matador music to go with it ?)
He eloquently hammers Gotham into submission, a true FORCE of nature ! Until we discover he actually works for Talia ... Oh COME ON ! Why ? Was that really necessary ? Not to mention that Talia has the WORST death scene ever ! Shame on you writers , shame on you ! This is a bigger version of Begins ? Ah Phooey !

As for Catwoman.... boy was she unneeded ! The "romance" was forced since her ideology is about sthelf-preservation. In the comics there's a sense that she genuinely cares about him but that takes TIME and god knows how many stories ! Here? it is just that rushed.
Finally, the ending...

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF HE ACTUALLY DIED ! I would have said : Damn ! That is what I call a cLOSURE ! But nope, Batman gets to live a happy life in Europe or whatever with Catwoman. I call RIP-OFF !

And isn't Gotham gonna be worse than ever now? With all the anarchy that happened ?
Ah screw it, I've read far worse Batman (That is praised for some ungodly reason ) so I can't be THAT harsh about it. It had fun moments despite the dumb ones , so I guess that is all I can say about it ...

And now for the rolling call of the entire trilogy !

STARRING :

- Wealthy Powerduck

- Nigel Powers

- A Civic Education Teacher

- Spooky Goopy

- William Somerset

- Officer Vlad Tepes

- Eric Roberts

- The Secretary

- Friz Freleng's Daffy

- Gemini Saga

- Une FATALE Erreur De Casting !

- Still a Better Robin than that goddamn Damian

- Steroids Kenny

- Spandex Blair



All my thanks to the great Eric Goldberg sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos…

prn1/p480x480/311240_361579713936057_607662001_n.jpg ! And Good night everybody !
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Maetch Featured By Owner May 9, 2015
Begins was boring, and Rises was just weird (though I did love Scarecrow's surprise cameo: "Death BY exile!"). While there are better Batman-based movies, TDK is easily the best of Nolan's bunch. I really don't think Batman should be talking like he had been smoking a pack a day for 20 years, though.
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devilkais Featured By Owner May 11, 2015
Well that voice is not a total waste. I can perfectly see Paperinik talking like that !
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VortexOmega Featured By Owner Edited Apr 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
For aiming to create a more realistic Batman (And I use the term "Realistic" losesly here), I think Nolan did a pretty damn good job. It was cool seeing Bruce Wayne build himself up to becoming the Batman, and how he utilized the tech from his company to create his arsenal. Also, him really playing up the stealth aspect of his League of Shadow's training, and using fear, deception, and stealth was something pretty awesome. Also, each of the villains served their roles well with Ledger's Joker being the best out of the bunch. And while there were aspects of Bale's Batman that leaved much to be desired, I felt he did a great job portraying Bruce Wayne. Having his portray the millionaire playboy, and the tortured sole was something I think he nailed...for the most part. I know I'm in the minority in this discussion, but I did feel that Nolan did a good job creating a interesting, and entering entry in the Dark Knight Mythos. 


With that said, I enjoyed your review as always. 

I look forward to your thoughts on probably the best movies of the bunch, The Mask of The Phantasm. 
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devilkais Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015
When I say I love 1 movie and a half of it, it's mostly because I am not all that thrilled with another retelling of the origin. Also, he really should have refrained from re-using the League in the 3rd movie, it should have been Bane all along... and Batman staying DEAD (even if the ending remained ambiguous...) 

But as it is, I quite like it even if I don't see it as the DEFINITIVE/BEST Batman stuff... I see it as A take on the Bat-world. And I do agree that while I love Nolan and Burton movies... Mask of The Phantasm is unmatched in its category with Return of the Joker as a close Second !
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Bastard-Bird Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2015   General Artist
They should've just said Fuck It and gone with Danny Trejo for Bane if they needed a name to get butts in seats. More posturing and posing than a Nickleback concert and they managed to make what should have been chaotic and entertaining utterly boring by hammering in 'deeper meaning'. The only amusing bits were the voices - Batman sounded like a youtube parody.

I've been enjoying Tom Hardy since Bronson, but if they had to put him in a Batman movie it should've been as Hush. Or Hugo Strange. Like the Alan Grant era ripped-as-all-hell Strange.

Your writing, and references, are a joy to read (even if the subject matter gets me building up a head of steam).
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devilkais Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2015
It's been my theory that character depth is something that's not thrown on the audience face. It's mostly the consequence of a character's interractions, trials and range...
And that's Nolan's stuff becomes hilarious, because it takes itself so damn seriously !

I am quite honored that you like my review, and as for Alan Grant , welllll devilkais.deviantart.com/art/B…
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ImdaBatman Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You might want to include who each "starring" refers to, cuz I'm a little confused
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015
No problem :

- Wealthy Powerduck : Batman (I mean THAT voice would fit THIS character more img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20… )


- Nigel Powers : Michael Caine

- A Civic Education Teacher : Ra's Al Ghul

- Spooky Goopy : The Scarecrow

- William Somerset / ... Damn I forgot this  one XD !

- Officer Vlad Tepes : Commish Gordon

- Eric Roberts : Eric Roberts ... As always !

- The Secretary : Rachel

- Friz Freleng's Daffy : This one is obvious ! XD

- Gemini Saga : Harvey Dent

- Une FATALE Erreur De Casting ! : Pfff... Talia... Damn that plotline !

- Still a Better Robin than that goddamn Damian : That Cop in DK Raises.

- Steroids Kenny : Bane

- Spandex Blair: Catwoman
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Donnietu Featured By Owner May 30, 2015  Student General Artist
William Somerset - Morgan Freeman
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devilkais Featured By Owner May 31, 2015
Thanks for reminding me ! Damn, that really slipped my mind !
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ImdaBatman Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ha! That IS funny!
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Ruyc Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014
Good review, I guess you really hate Damian
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devilkais Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014
Oh trust me, when I HATE something, I never half-ass it nor do I do so without reasons.
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DragoLord09 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
And here I thought I was the only sane one for not liking this movie trilogy!
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
Well I do like 1 movie and a half from it XD . What is your favorite Batman movie ?
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DragoLord09 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
Personally, I feel more comfortable with animated than live-action superhero movies, the transition between the different styles is a little, jarring, for my tastes.
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014
Maybe this will be more to your liking . devilkais.deviantart.com/art/X…
I mostly agree with you though I think there are some live action that worked beautifully: The Burton Batmans, Hellboy , the first 2 TMNT movies.
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killb94 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
Well, off to re-watch Tim Burton's films!
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devilkais Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Indeed , they do kick ass !
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MyNameIsArchie Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Even though I think Nolan's second and third Batman films are great (the first one is meh), you make very valid points.
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devilkais Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013
Thanks again Archie ! 
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MyNameIsArchie Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Welcome!!
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DragoLord09 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
I might as well get this out of the way, do you think the rest of Nolan's works are overhyped or not?
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devilkais Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
Truth be told, I've yet to watch them ...
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Kraut007 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
Nice shortreviews for the Nolan trilogy. 
I have a similar view.
The heavy-handed political statements were not fitting for Batman, but the movies are still enjoyable.
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Long time no see man !
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NurseRozetta95 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awhaha, this is awesome :lmao:

I do love the movies, the Dark Knight in particular, but I do admit you make some fair points there :XD:
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Oh trust me , I always think my points through !
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Uber-Stooge Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Loved the first one, 2nd one was a mess, 3rd one I liked......did Batman live, I thought Alfred was day dreaming again. Batman blew up saving the city
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Really ? Personally the second is the closest to a Batman story for me...
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Uber-Stooge Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
It ran too long I stopped caring around when Rachael blew up and the ferry boat climax was a bit of a bore and there was little for joker to then then just blow things up. "Robot Chicken" did an episode on it and I felt just as they did. It just seemed a disjointed mess to me. I think Heath dying gave it better reviews then it deserved....Just one mans opinion
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devilkais Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Nice way to put it , Uber, nice...
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KombeenanvusKartoons Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I love how they're setting up the cartoon bombs behind him. :XD:
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
And you can thank Eric Goldberg for that one ! BTW, can you guess who is who in the cast ?
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KombeenanvusKartoons Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
No, I can't. ^^; Is this a reference to a promotional piece for Back in Action?
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Actually it was an homage he drew to Chuck Jones .
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KombeenanvusKartoons Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Oh, I see. :D
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TheUnisonReturns Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Frankly, I'm not much of a fan of the Nolan Batman trilogy, but then I'm generally not a fan of live-action superhero movies regardless. I always feel they are considerably lacking when compared to their animated counterparts.
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013

Oh I perfectly understand. Whenever I draw them , I am mostly influenced by the Burnett/Timm/ Dini TAS or whatever comics I happen to love. 

BTW , can you guess who is who in the casting ? ;) I wrote it Honest Trailers style !

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MightyMorphinPower4 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Nice job
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Thank you !
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magusVroth Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Student Artist
Well, man. I have to say that I find this to be a very thorough and fair analysis of the uber-hyped dark knight trilogy. I'll admit that while I do find them enjoyable from an entertainment perspective, I feel that after analyzing them thoroughly, there's a lot about these movies that seems overly pretentious and works to shove it's ideals into your mind (probably why I didn't think Inception was that great of a movie...)

I'll just get it out of the ways and say that I found the "Batman" voice to be very off-putting and an unnecessary factor to his guise. Seriously, I know you're supposed to get the idea that he's intimidating, but the whole point of his character is that he can be anybody, not a frickin' gargoyle! Honestly, it made me appreciate the work that he got done as Bruce Wayne, cuz it showed that he didn't even really need the costume that much to do his work as the Batman for Gotham.

I'd also like to say that I do feel that Oldman's portrayal of Gordon was practically flawless and is probably one of my only favorite parts of the franchise. I also feel that Crane's appearances after Batman Begins were a nice touch, showing that even without being the main villain, he's still a threat that works his way in and out of the city. :)

As for the other villains, while I do admit that I didn't mind Ra's al Ghul that much just cuz I like Liam Neeson's performances, but looking at it fairly, I can agree that the character itself is very dry and narrow minded, much like his pathetic excuse of a daughter (seriously, I actually suspected that she was the real villain as soon as I saw her in the movie... :( ). Can't say for sure, tho, if I hate her in this as much as I do in Batman, Inc. I'd say it's a pretty even game, tho.

The Joker, on the other hand, I did find to be a very entertaining character, as well as an unexpected portrayal of this criminal madman. But as you pointed out, he comes across as more of a cartoon character, and to me, that kind of works against him. When I hear of the Joker being re-imagined in a Batman movie, I'm kind of looking for a character who gets a kick out of the suffering of others and sugar coats it with twisted gags, while here it just seemed to me that he was too absorbed in his fetish for chaos to actually make me that afraid of him. Just my opinion; I do like him, but I just wanted to be more terrified of him...

And then we have Bane. I will just say that I LOVE the way the portrayed him as the calculating criminal genius he deserves to be seen as, but I also HATE how he was shoved to the side in the last few minutes of the movie for the "big twist bitch villain" I saw coming a mile away. I really wanted to be pleasantly surprised and see that Miranda could hold her own against Bane's wits just as much as Bruce could, finally giving him someone with whom he could have a new connection, but NO; she has to be the mopey bitch daughter of a dry extremist who comes off as a bigger hypocrite than her own father ( I realize I should still be talking about Bane, but Talia just really pissed me off in this movie...)

But to add a sweet maraschino cherry to this layer cake of rants and beefs, I will say that Aaron Eckart's portrayal of Harvey Dent is second only to Gordon for my favorite performances of this franchise. Even when he does become Two-Face, I felt that you were really seeing a man who had crawled out scarred after his entire world had been shattered, and came back with a twisted clarity of the world that had engulfed him. Quite a fantastic and truly believable portrayal (even if his clear voice with a half-charred face was a bit farfetched and part of why he comes in second...)

Just thought I'd share some thoughts with you on this "deep" franchise since everyone else around me gives it nothing but everlasting praise and shun me for my nitpicking; just good to know I'm not alone in these thoughts, man. :)
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Well that is what I do , my good fellow ! I hope you found my text amusing though ...

I'll just get it out of the ways and say that I found the "Batman" voice to be very off-putting and an unnecessary factor to his guise.

True. It is unnecessary , hell if you compare to Keaton or Conroy it does fall flat. But as I said , I know the hero that deserves that voice !

As for Talia , I am glad to see I was not the only one disappointed with that addition. DKR would have been better were it only about Bane himself.
Ledger's Joker to me is the same Rucka wrote in No Man's land (hell , his last dirty trick with the inversion of henchmen and cops ? Classic Gag !). And it is not a bad thing, the cartoon comparison is actually a good thing if you compare the Joker to the grimness of Gotham , he was always out for his own fun and Ego (and free shrimps at the buffet )!
As for the rest, can't say it better !

BTW , Can you guess who is who in the cast ?
:) (Smile) 
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Jose-Ramiro Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heh, typical.
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devilkais Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
Poor Harvey is always shunned indeed !
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Jose-Ramiro Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heh, you're right.
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